I have a few comments on the preview.
First, someone should explain to Dany how the line of succession works. She was not “born to rule”. Rhaegar was. After his death, Viserys was. And then Drogo was, but he died too. Dany has done some great work to make herself a contender, but when you’re born the third child after two older brothers, you aren’t “born” to do anything but marry a lord from another house. Under different circumstances in which Robert’s Rebellion didn’t happen, she probably would have married Loras Tyrell or maybe even Robb Stark.
Cersei’s probably flying as high as she’s going to be right now. She’s got some valuable prisoners, an early victory, and a highly motivated suitor. As I said last week, keep an eye on Jaime. He’s not going to like it, but he’ll go along to a point.
Naive Bastard King is on his way to meet Refugee Queen. Will he bend the knee? I am leaning toward “yes”, but it will be disastrous for his position. The North isn’t going to tolerate that and might decide that they prefer the Idiot Queen over the Refugee Queen and Naive Bastard King. Then they’ll want to attack Bitch Queen. It’ll make for a great show until Undead King shows up.
Leave a comment. Spoilers, predictions, and insane theories welcome.
Dany making a claim to the throne might rankle some others, too…she’s still a guest in their house, basically. Her best bet would be a marriage that would unite her line with the Stark’s. The writers should take a look at how marriages were used in Europe to create alliances.
Didn’t Dany really disrespect Jon? Also RIP to the old lady with the sharp wit and sharper tongue.
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I think what happened is that Dany expected Jon to be yet another one of the tough guys she’s been dealing with all of her life. She thought she had to put up a big front with him and just couldn’t comprehend that there was a man coming to see her who genuinely didn’t want to either kill or marry her.
Olenna went out like a boss.
Jamie: “My sister wanted to torture you and kill you horribly, but I talked her out of it. Here’s some poison that will kill you mercifully.”
Olenna (drinks poison): “I killed your son, cuck.”
Just Finished with episode 3 . To bad about Olenna, she had a great charm about her, but just as deadly and mean as the sand snake bitches. The reveal at the end that she was behind Joffreys poisoning, well done, gulp down the poison slap jamie in the face, watch him walk away after he gave you a easy out.
I tsil want to know how the Unsullied fleet managed to get around Dorne with out being jumped bythe Greyjoy fleet when the loyalist Greyjoys fleet and donrish fleets get jumped by greyjoy. oh well. and putting the Unsullied that far out on the edge of their logistical line, and then to be cut off, classic mistake. Tyrion should have seen that coming.
alas. jon and Dannys meeting, she was full of puff and fluff, trying for the bitch queen approach to cower the wolf bastard,. thought that was a bit much. Id figure taht jon would have at least brought something to prove his claim of offer to take Tyrion or another of dannys group to the north to see the army of the dead..
overall not a bad epesiode, did get to see Bronn, tisk i liekthe guy i fear that he will end up very dead on someones sword, like the Hound or Berienne.
Oh and good old little finger. i do love this sniviling guy, mr. Realpolitik himself. his lil speech to Sansa was right on the mark. as much he is a real sunabitch i have to admire how he plays he game.
and oh what was that line between Varays and Melisandre? that part about having to die in a foreign land?
All hail euron greyjoy. By any account the biggest prick in the game of thrones universe since Ramsey, and by his pwn multitudinous accounts he HAS the biggest prick in the game of thrones universe.
I expected Dany to continue her power tripping but it was a little disappointing. She and Jon are very alike and in similar situations. Both of them are where they are because of magic and the fantastic. Why is it hard to believe Jon when there are fucking DRAGONS flying around? Tyrion does seem to have at least a nagging suspicion that Jon is right. Maybe Dany believes it but doesn’t care. At least she acknowledged that “in perpetuity” isn’t quite fair. She is also letting him mine the dragon glass, but only to keep him preoccupied. My prediction given the rapid decline in her position is that she heads north like Stannis did. Alternatively, she jumps on Drogon and bakes the Red Keep with Cersei inside. The latter is what she should do.
Euron is awesome. Anyone else think of Tywin’s horse taking a shit in the throne room when he entered? One quibble – his needling of Jamie gets on my nerves.
Mel leaving is interesting. This leaves Thoros as the remaining red priest in Westeros. I have always wondered if he weren’t the real prophet. I am pretty sure in the end Varys gets burned alive. I think he will betray Dany.
RIP Olenna.
Euron is the best magnificent bastard villain the show has ever had. Joffrey and Ramsay were the ones we loved to hate, but Euron is great. Total madman.
I like my villains competent and hammy.
That is going to turn out to be an important scene, I think. She said she has to die in Westeros, as does Varys.
Never seen the Spider so rattled.
I think Dany is trying to stay focused on the objective of winning the throne. She needs time to embrace what Jon is telling her is the more vital one.
I do think she’ll set a dragon loose on the Lannister army, just to settle the score. She’s tried being nice and got screwed. Time to “be a dragon”.
Euron screwing with Jamie is advancing the plot I see forming. It’s helping push him away from Cersei. Needs to happen.
Varys may already have betrayed Dany. Did the little birds not notice a big Lannister army marching to Highgarden and Euron’s fleet leaving Kings Landing? Or did Varys fail to mention it?
This episode really highlighted the increased pace this season. Things are moving so fast, it’s pushing the limits of believability, as evidenced by the warp speed of Jon in getting to Dragonstone, the Lannister army, Greyjoy & Unsullied fleets. On balance I think it’s good for the show, as nobody wanted to wait around for three episodes of important characters in transit, but everything is feeling a bit rushed.
Hats off to Lady Olenna, who was one of the highlights of this series, and who went out in glorious fashion. I already feel sorry for Jaime, but felt it worse this episode when I realized that he has a knack for extending mercy and compassion to people and having it come back to bite him. Tyrion fleeing the capital, sticking his neck (or rather, hand) out for Brienne, and now being merciful to the woman who gruesomely murdered his son. It’s an interesting counterpoint to Cersei, who continues to be rewarded for her brutality.
I was underwhelmed with the interaction between Jon and Danerys. Emilia Clarke’s acting leaves a lot to be desired, and you combine that with the assholish way she addressed Jon, I am left wondering why this is supposed to be someone I am rooting for. I did enjoy Tyrion’s role in all of this, as he was pretty masterful in trying to bring the two together.
zoom, I have been giving pretty broad license when it comes to traveling around. This season is condensed and it shows. Even I rolled my eyes a bit as Jon rolled up on Dragonstone.
Yes, Dany was an asshole to Jon, the only person that would genuinely be interested in helping her. He can’t have much love for Cersei. Dorne maintained a semi-kingdom so I don’t know why Jon can’t remain KITN whilst still being loyal to Dany. No need for her to be prickly about it when she is on the pseudo throne on Dragonstone. When she is on the IT she can be a bitch about it. Until then it is impossible for Jon to “bend the knee” at this point.
I will say, though, he is quite fortunate that she addressed him as “Lord”. Perhaps she is a bit more open minded than we are giving her credit for? At the very least she should offer to legitimize him in exchange for bending. I believe Stannis the Asshole, First of His Name, offered that as well.
I saw a comment on FB that did intrigue me. Why, other than lazy writing, did Tyrion not ask why Jon still has a head on his shoulders after leaving the Watch? He is keeping his resurrection private from what I can tell. Perhaps they didn’t want the characters discussing Melissandre before she left?
Greatest contrast between them is Dany’s sense that she deserves the throne while Jon always has responsibility pushed on him. Both take their charges equally seriously though.
In that vein, I can see Jon bending the knee if it’s what’s best for his people–whether they recognize it or not. Right now, he doesn’t have to and Dany is wise not to push it.
I think he’ll win her over soon and she’ll lighten up. When he mentioned that he didn’t like doing what he was good at, it impressed her. Very Rhaegar.
Well, yes Jon had no reason to ever believe that he would be KITN and had no real training for it. He did receive training for Commander of the Night’s Watch but that is it. It is easy to poke fun at some of his missteps but he is really doing the best that he can at the moment. I suspect that he will get better.
Yes, I do think that he will win her over. Good point about Rhaegar.
yeah , which gives some credence to the theory that Varays is, not exactly human . One character once said something about tossing Varayes into the sea to down, he replied something to the effect of. “you would be disappointed with the results.”
Is she, though? I’m starting to think that’s the point. Fewer flashes of the breaker of chains and more flashes of the mother of dragons. She’s going to end up being awful, I can feel it.
Honestly? I don’t think she’ll be queen. I’m starting to think Cersei might outlast her.
Seriously, I expected the Lannisters to do something to remain a threat just for story purposes this season, but I didn’t expect that they would turn out to be so militarily effective this late in the game. My boy Kingslayer is a regular Rommel.