Here we find ourselves once again capping off another wild week in Trumplandia.  It wouldn’t have been complete without at least one gaffe by the President.  In this case, he revealed that he’s been talking to himself about the hurricane impact on the US Virgin Islands and agrees that he is doing a heckuva job.

This was a lost opportunity.  If only the (performs quick Internet search) governor of the Virgin Islands had complained about the federal response to the islands.  Then Trump could have denounced the “President of the US Virgin Islands” in a devastating tweet without realizing that he’s the President of the US Virgin Islands.  Then some troll could say, “Hey, the President of the Virgin Islands just criticized you!  Better hit him again!”   Let Trump chase his tail for a few weeks, insulting himself and then responding.

Somehow, I feel like this is the logical course that all of this trash talk will follow.  Trump is sort of like Bowerick Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged from the Hitchhiker’s Guide Trilogy.  You know, the character who flies all over the universe to personally insult every single person who lives in it across time and space, one at a time.  When he’s finally burned Rosie O’Donnell, the GOP, the Democrats, the mayor of San Juan, Rex Tillerson, Kim Jong Un, NBC, CNN, the New York Times, and everyone else he can possibly insult in the span of eight years, he’ll at long last take on his one and only worthy opponent and destroy what’s left of Creation in an epic storm.

On the subject of epic storms, the Justice Department is reportedly sending more federal assistance to Puerto Rico in the form of some FBI agents to investigate why it is that aid isn’t reaching the island’s residents.  Being that it’s the FBI, I imagine that they’ll first deny that they’ve found any link between the devastation and the hurricane.  Then they’ll release a timeline of events showing that the countryside was flooded three weeks before the hurricane came through.  Finally, they’ll be informed by a contract company hired by Mayor Cruz that the supplies were diverted by Russian hackers.  They’ll accept that as the conclusion and head home.  Honestly, Trump should just send the entire FBI to Puerto Rico to drive supply trucks for a few weeks.  It would be more productive than anything else they’ve done recently.

The FBI/LVMPD investigation into the Las Vegas shooting remains a complete clown orgy of disgusting absurdity.  It has played out like this over the past couple of weeks…

FBI/LVMPD: “Jesus Campos, a casino security guard, ran up to the floor as Paddock was firing on the crowd.  Paddock started shooting at Campos and then killed himself, saving untold numbers of lives!”

A week later…

FBI/LVMPD: “Alright, what actually happened is that Jesus Campos went to the suspect’s floor to check on an open door alarm.  While he was up there, Paddock started shooting at him for no apparent reason.  Then Paddock hung around for six minutes, also for no reason, while nobody called the police.  There wasn’t any reason for waiting six minutes either, but it’s pretty clear that the slow response was entirely the hotel’s fault.  But that’s what we’ve learned from our exhaustive and totally professional investigation after ten days.”

MGM: “No, assholes.  We took the extraordinary investigatory step of actually interviewing our employees and they said that Paddock opened fire on the crowd within a minute of firing on Campos”

The next day…

FBI/LVMPD: “Yes, MGM is right.  Even though there were two hotel employees on the floor for us to interview, we half-assed it and didn’t get any of the facts right.  Our bad!  But we’re still totally going to investigate it right from now on and figure out why Paddock did this.”

ISIS: “We told you.  We did it.”

FBI: “Who are you again?”

ISIS: “You don’t remember?  Garland, Texas?  We sent a couple of our guys to shoot up an event and you had a couple of your guys–”

FBI: “ANYWAY, WE HAVEN’T FOUND ANYTHING!  WE’LL HAVE ANOTHER PRESS CONFERENCE EVENTUALLY FOR JOURNALISTS WHO DON’T ASK QUESTIONS!  THANKS!”

Next week:

FBI/LVMPD/MGM: “Who is this Jesus Campos person everyone keeps asking about?”

Jesus Campos, being a national hero for whatever the hell it was the FBI and LVMPD are saying that he did according to this week’s version of events, disappeared.  He even skipped out on an interview with Sean Hannity along with a few other news outlets.  Not since Carmen Sandiego has a Hispanic been so elusive and mysterious.

The theories surrounding Campos are as varied as you can imagine.  Depending on who you ask he either was an accomplice of Paddock’s, or he killed Paddock and did all of the killing himself, or he was killed for knowing too much and there’s no Jesus Campos to be found anymore.  I don’t go that far.  My own thought is that MGM is going to get bankrupted by lawsuits when it comes out that they enabled Paddock to get the weapons to his room using the service elevator (escorted by a security officer, no less) and the less Campos says publicly, the better.  Indeed, the first lawsuit has already been filed.

Hey, isn’t it remarkable that MGM is about to get sued into oblivion and they got the FBI and LVMPD to change their official timeline of the shooting so that it altered specific details that would have been extremely devastating to their defense?  I could understand making these errors within the first few days after an incident, but two weeks?  Ah, well.  I’m sure the dipshit conspiracy nuts won’t make a big deal about all of the incons…

Oh.

Well, I’m not ready to call Campos an accomplice.  I think MGM and law enforcement are pressuring him to shut up.  Not sure why, but it’s definitely nefarious.

How about some appreciation for Laura Loomer, by the way?  I’ve never paid much attention to her before, but she deserves a great deal of credit for her work on this story.  As far as I know, she’s the first to report that Campos has armed guards protecting his house.  The family has gone so far as to put up “No Media” signs at the house to get rid of her and the LVMPD has barred her from attending press conferences.

Speaking of people sticking their noses in places they don’t belong, the Trump Administration took some consequential steps in prioritizing Israel’s interests over the USA’s this week.  First, he withdrew the United States from UNESCO because it’s mean to Israel or something.  Next, he took steps to end the Iran nuclear weapons deal that Obama put in place to keep that country from developing nuclear weapons.

The only beneficiary of these policies is Israel, not the United States.  UNESCO, I don’t really care about.  Iran, on the other hand, I would argue isn’t really our problem.  For the remainder of this century, I think we’re going to see a balance of power struggle between Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Iran to determine who will hold sway over the region.  None of them should win and we should be doing everything we can to maintain a stalemate rather than bringing ourselves into direct conflict with Iran to “help” anyone.

Obamacare, already clinging to the edge of the cliff, now has Trump stomping on its fingers.  His latest EO will hasten the collapse and force Congress to act, sooner or later.  We’ve argued in the past about Obama’s standing among US Presidents.  I rate him “mediocre”, not because I didn’t like him or his politics, but because he accomplished so little of significance during his two terms.  His largest legislative accomplishment, Obamacare, destroyed his party at all levels of government.  Through his second term, he could do little but sign Executive Orders with no permanence or lasting legacy.  All of it is already being erased by his successor, much like an ancient pharoah’s name might be from monuments the day after the funeral.

Thanks for all the links, Russia!  

Not since Pokemon Go has so much Russian propaganda been distributed so shamelessly and subversively as this post.  I look forward to meeting Bob Mueller later.  Will probably happen at about the same time the Trump Administration starts enforcing those sanctions.

An excellent piece in War is Boring discusses the folly of using the failed lessons of counterinsurgencies in foreign wars in domestic policing.

In California, you can bang a tranny and give him/her HIV as long as you don’t misgender him/her.  Giving someone a terminal disease is now pretty much the same thing as hurting someone’s feelings.  Can we get the doom going yet?  I can’t handle much more.

Speaking of the Gotterdammerung in California, the Weinstein scandal keeps expanding like a sinkhole, threatening to swallow all of Hollywood.  Here’s something that didn’t age well:

If you don’t understand why so many of us on the Right are enjoying this scandal so much, it’s because we’ve known all along that Hollywood is rotten and exploitative and yet has always seen fit to lecture us about Social Justice without living by its own rules.  Hollywood will survive this under a couple of qualifications.  First, that the sacrifice of Weinstein calms the waters.  Second, that no victims of casting couch pedophilia come forward and start naming names.  This can still be contained while being the best, most original, and most entertaining story to come out of Hollywood in 20 years.

That’s not to minimize the awfulness of the wildfires, which have already cost 38 lives and millions of dollars in destroyed homes.  This includes the old home of cartoonist Charles Schulz.

The state of America:

Anyway, that should be enough to get us started on some good discussion.  What do you want to share?

60 comments

  1. “To Kill a Mockingbird” is the latest victim of the Comfort Police:

    Thanks for reminding me, WVR. I placed “Mississippi Goddamn” in the DJ thread as a DejaVu. My son is reading this in Lit right now. This is really just another example of us trying to keep kids young and yet wondering why they are so immature.

  2. You forgot to mention that my prediction has come true and the anthem has been removed from football. The NFL has also tucked themselves into the closet like good cucks and won’t be placating the minuscule army of spit dribbling goons that equate kneeling for the anthem to treason (unless they happen to be in line to piss during the anthem which is totally ok).

    The apprentice president looks like he’s also going to move on suffering yet another miserable loss at his own hands.

    (To think, Pence master plan at the colts game last week was to prompt a major walkout by his hillbilly Amish constituents but they decided the game was more important and stayed. Lmao)

    Hollywood is incredibly creepy at the top. It makes total sense that the other most creepy and morally bankrupt den of sexual deviancy, Donald Trump and his band of closeted republican fags fall under the microscope next.

  3. You forgot to mention that my prediction has come true and the anthem has been removed from football.

    No, it hasn’t. Instead, the sports media has helpfully decided that the issue is catastrophic for ratings and isn’t airing the anthem so it can help hide the protests.

    You’ve been saying that players like Michael Thomas would make the kneelers look sympathetic. If that’s true and the protests are a good thing, why won’t Fox or ESPN show them? The answer is that it isn’t. The networks know that the politicization of the game is harming ratings and they want no part of it.

    Eventually, the players will start making other political displays during games in other ways since they’re not getting attention during the National Anthem anymore and they know they won’t face any consequences for doing it from a gutless NFL. I’m all for this, for reasons of enjoying watching the world burn or something.

  4. Trump’s war on the media has made for some unlikely allies:

    Hot Air? I wouldn’t call them “unlikely allies”. They’ve always been ambivalent on Trump, at best. They’re pure PaulRyanLand.

    Milliard’s post misses an important point. What NBC is doing isn’t simply being biased. They’re MANUFACTURING negative stories to use against the Trump Administration through anonymous sources who may or may not exist.

    If they were simply reporting news that was unfavorable to Trump like the Puerto Rico Mayor’s comments or something like that and he were threatening their licenses, that would be an attack on the First Amendment. But when they’re essentially creating bad news for Trump out of thin air to keep up a narrative, it crosses the line into Fake News.

    As it keeps happening, the networks are going to learn that they can either resume applying appropriate journalistic standards to themselves or they’ll have them imposed on them one way or another.

    Personally, I think that the news media is fully capable of doing this themselves. Look at CNN’s response to the bogus Scarmucci story back in June: http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/26/media/cnn-announcement-retracted-article/index.html

    But I think it is useful to have a conversation about whether news outlets who essentially make up news should be treated as legitimate journalists. Trump is doing what he often does. He sets this absurd position with severe consequences (“Players who kneel should be fired!”, All Dreamers should be deported!”, etc) and then gets people talking about what HE wants them to talk about. Eventually, the consequences come to something reasonable that benefits him (“Standing with arms locked is okay!”, “I’ll work with Congress to let Dreamers stay in exchange for the wall and enforcement!”)

    Hot Air has never managed to really examine the cause and effect of Trump’s statements. It works for him, more often than not.

  5. I never said anything of the sort. I never said that Mike Thomas was going to make the players sympathetic to the welfare queens in the midwest. I posted that video to show you that your boy-king boomer Trump made (yet again) the precisely wrong move to end the anthem kneeling theater that was becoming the hallmark of the 2017 NFL season. Dumb fuck thought that he could make a bunch of juiced up millionaire jocks shut up with his mighty twitter fingers and all it did was make the NFL networks, and him look like the weakling cucks they actually are.

    Ratings will be up this week, now that the tiny minority of flag worshipping jingoists have been effectively torn from the flag they love so much, and the president they love so much can’t force the black people to capitulate and dance on command.

  6. Trump’s problem is that he says the outrageous stuff before the sane side of him takes over. I suspect this is why you have Rex Tillerson being more cautious on the Iran deal, for example. It might make his base happy, but doesn’t make for good or coherent policy.

    BTW notice how there were none of these NFL protests when Bush was in office? And to the left he was Hitler too for most of his presidency. I guess it’s just fashionable now, and sad, especially when you see this stuff at the high and grade school level.

  7. I never said anything of the sort. I never said that Mike Thomas was going to make the players sympathetic to the welfare queens in the midwest.

    How? If the networks are hiding the protests, how are they making them more sympathetic? You don’t hide things that are positive.

    I posted that video to show you that your boy-king boomer Trump made (yet again) the precisely wrong move to end the anthem kneeling theater that was becoming the hallmark of the 2017 NFL season.

    He correctly voiced the position that the protests are harming the NFL’s brand. The networks that depend on ratings clearly agree with him, or they wouldn’t be concealing the kneeling. The NFL still hasn’t resolved the issue. You’re acting like it’s a settled matter. It isn’t.

    Ratings will be up this week, now that the tiny minority of flag worshipping jingoists have been effectively torn from the flag they love so much, and the president they love so much can’t force the black people to capitulate and dance on command.

    No, but he can convince the white working people who pay for shit that they shouldn’t be wasting time on an activity that enriches those black people.

    What you, the NFL, and its players don’t seem to grasp is that those fans who are giving up on professional football aren’t going to come back and they’re not going to be replaced by new fans who are become interested because Social Justice turns them on. Ask Marvel Comics how many comic books SJW’s buy.

    As I pointed out in last week’s thread (where we had already thoroughly discussed this, which is why I didn’t include it this week in the post), the NFL is losing audience among the younger viewers who it thinks cares about being “woke”, not simply the old people. It’s their own funeral but Trump tried to warn them to change course.

    If they don’t want to do it, it’s on them, but on top of their ratings woes, they’ve now brought the question of tax exemption and subsidies for the NFL to the forefront by allowing the politicization. There’s no aspect of this that’s a win for the NFL and squashing the protests should be a no-brainer.

    Trump wins either way.

  8. Trump’s problem is that he says the outrageous stuff before the sane side of him takes over.

    I don’t agree with that at all. I think he calculates with his tweets and knows that the outrageousness forces everyone to talk about what he wants us to talk about. I guarantee that NBC and other outlets are seriously mulling the wisdom of posting so many stories that rely entirely on anonymous sources.

    BTW notice how there were none of these NFL protests when Bush was in office?

    The idea that absolutely everything should be politicized is a newer phenomenon. It started sometime during the Obama years. I think it has less to do with how people felt about Bush and more about how norms have changed. It’s a fascinating subject.

  9. then there is Trump Gutting Obama care
    there by killing millions of Americans for his own ego..

    I’m literally shaking at the thought that the insurance companies might have to stop raking in obscene profits while still taking government subsidies. Who will care for their children?

  10. That truly is an amazing development because he will 100 percent win that case. The owners kept him out of the league for his protest and I will be happy that they have to open their wallets and pay him for nothing.

  11. The owners kept him out of the league for his protest and I will be happy that they have to open their wallets and pay him for nothing.

    On this, we are in agreement.

  12. If you don’t understand why so many of us on the Right are enjoying this scandal so much, it’s because we’ve known all along that Hollywood is rotten and exploitative and yet has always seen fit to lecture us about Social Justice without living by its own rules.

    And the left loves a Right Wing scandal because the left lectures us on morality. Hypocrisy is a feature of the powerful, not a bug.

    There was an absolutely great question on a podcast I listen to which I hope every single journalist asked every single powerful person out there. It was so simple, but was met with absolute shocked silence, and stammering equivocating. He simply asked:

    “Are there any more open secrets in Hollywood or Washington that we should know about?”

    I think the most disturbing thing about this is the open secret thing. Because all that means is that powerful people are protecting powerful people. You think Ben Affleck would have kept quiet if an actress he was working with got harassed by the janitor? Is there ever an ‘open secret’ about Kevin from accounts?

  13. I think the most disturbing thing about this is the open secret thing.

    It’s a real phenomenon, definitely. An old friend of mine who worked at one time as a bodyguard in Hollywood once told me all about how Justin Bieber was a womanizer and his squeaky clean image was an act. This was around the time that an older woman came out and said she was pregnant by Bieber and nobody believed her. Several months later, the truth started coming out about what a little maniac he was, but it was an old “open secret” to this guy who was in the know.

    The Trump Dossier was apparently one of these before it leaked. It had been passed around, but wasn’t deemed worthy of sharing with “the provinces” until Comey briefed Trump about it.

    Another Hollywood one was Mel Gibson. South Park did a couple of episodes spoofing how insane he was and it confused people outside of Hollywood parties who didn’t know about it. Next thing you know, Gibson gets arrested for DUI outside of LA and says a bunch of crazy, angry shit on video for the world to see.

    Yeah, the “open secrets” question is genius to ask. There’s always something going on that “everybody” knows about, but not EVERYBODY knows about.

  14. That’s the more constructive debate, anyway. The reaction to the Weinstein thing perfectly encapsulates how a monster like him can be a day walker for so long. He, like most of the wealthy elite operate in the middle of the divisiveness. They donate to both sides of the aisle and have absolutely zero political agenda other than attaching their personal agendas to popular issues.

    Bills like citizens united have nothing to do with citizens, nor was it ever intended to unite anyone. The attorney that took that case to the Supreme Court, dan backer, openly admitted in an interview that he represented a people who care nothing for politics and simply live “in the now” preferring to attach a huge tax credit to an incredibly divisive bill like abortion, to use an example.

    Weinstein no more represents Hollywood than trump represents republicans. He’d probably have funded American sniper and Michael Moore in the same breath because someone like him gave zero fucks and had zero scruples. He wanted money and he didn’t much care if it came out of the pocket of the left or the right.

    Sure, every major actor that made it in Hollywood probably knew about him, and they obviously covered it up. There’s zero difference between those people, and the people that voted for trump after the pussy grabbing affair. Not even a cunt hair separates the two.

    It just feels better wagging the finger at other people for things you’re guilty of. How these people operate is in the middle of an incredibly divisive climate where you have to accept the horrible actions of the people at the top with status because they’re powerful, and you’re off the team if you don’t (and there’s no other team to choose from).

  15. I don’t think it’s so much that people ignored Weinstein because it was normal for him. I think it’s widespread and normal for Hollywood.

    Politics isn’t any different. One thing I point to is the Secret Service sex scandals that pop up periodically. Secret Service agents spend all of their time around politicians and keeping what they see very secret. You have to wonder what they’re seeing as “normal” behavior from both sides to think that it’s acceptable for them to do the same thing. Of course, they’re “little people” so they suffer the full consequences for their actions when caught.

    Hollywood and DC have it in common that they’re both insular, disconnected from mainstream America, and totally obsessed with sex and money. I’d also include the news media in there. And these are the people who tell us how to think, what to believe, and what our laws are supposed to be.

  16. They donate to both sides of the aisle and have absolutely zero political agenda other than attaching their personal agendas to popular issues.

    That’s horseshit. Look at the list of political donations Weinstein made. Almost universally to people with (D) after their name. Harvey actually helped pay for Clinton’s defense during the Lewinsky scandal. Not to mention the $250k he donated to the Clinton foundation. If you think these Hollywood asshats don’t have a liberal agenda, you’re amazingly more dumb than I already thought.

  17. I feel for the guy because I don’t think going to the scene of a crime should be a violation of the first amendment. No doubt that the casino will be renting that room out as soon as humanly possible, no matter how drenched in blood it is to anyone that wants a nihilistic experience of the murders first hand.

    Otoh, I’ve heard of people being banned from casinos for much less. Filming camera locations, acting suspicious and even simply hovering around a casino pit or being too friendly with dealers can all get you banned. It’s not exactly of the Joe Pesci caliber in casino. Nicky Santorno was put in the FBI’s black book and THEN he was banned from stepping foot in the casinos. That basement dweller was laying it on pretty thick there (its glorious of you to find an actual basement dweller’s video to put the icing on the cake here. His unfinished walls and stack of laundry on the basement washing machine was a nice touch!).

    I can hang with the dude on the liability conspiracy… somewhat. It will be the largest negligence payout in American history, and it is coming. I know MGM is shitting their gold lined panties fearing that. However, other than legal obfuscation in a courtroom, it wins MGM nothing to cover this up. They’ll be paying either way, and Im sure smarter minds than us have done the bean counting already. Knowingly covering up a “second man on the grassy knoll” would absolutely sink them forever, and even for an establishment that makes its money on calculated risks that would be a suicide mission.

    the two broken window thing seems easy to legitimize to me. there were reports of him trying to bore a hole into the hotel wall between the two rooms. I see that in Iraq all the time. He could’ve booby trapped his room, slid over to the next one when the swat team arrived, blown the swat team up from the next room and continued shooting for longer.

    I don’t see why people can’t just see it as an abandoned idea.

  18. Also it seems a lot of people are now crawling out of the woodwork making claims against others. Harvey is a creep and a thug, and deserves to be put away, but this is the downside of a legitimate scandal.

  19. disconnected from mainstream America,

    Search for the #metoo hashtag, and you’ll see that this isn’t a Hollywood problem or a Washington problem. It’s not even just an American problem.

  20. I know the idea that this weenie jihad some of twitter is engaging in seems like heavy petting. It is a little more complex than drunken jingoistic hillbillies not getting muh flag respected.

    There’s the cord cutting (after the nfl signed major deals with cable companies to exclusively air on cable), the season ticket to stream the games is bullshit (due to conflicts with regional cable I can’t get my own fucking local games on season ticket unless I spoof my vpn to Canada), the players union has reduced practice time to nothing (so the players are essentially practicing during the regular season), and the salary cap is probably the most egregious in all of professional sports (most of the teams are equally unskilled due to being hamstrung by salary caps).

    That’s not even getting into things like conservative and boring routes all the teams now run, always playing it safe and boring. There’s the constant rule changes, horrible officiating and general slow pace of the game as well.

    Way down on the bottom of the list of the nfl woes are what rednecks in Oklahoma think about kneeling for the flag.

    Sorry, I know it’s sexy to imagine that you’re changing the world from a twitter account but it’s hardly the case.

  21. Is there a graph of declining viewership which at least correlates to flag and anthem related treason? Because if it was already declining, well then Australia/guns.

  22. Yes, I acknowledged a couple of weeks ago that the NFL was already in trouble before this controversy started. That football causes brain damage is about as a bad as it gets.

    But with all of the other issues the NFL has, my argument is that it’s incredibly stupid and reckless for it to allow divisive political displays which alienate the portion of its paying audience that has stuck with this far.

    You’re still denying that the fan reaction to the protests matters. I’m afraid it does. Look: https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/national-anthem-controversy-hurting-the-nfls-brand/

    The NFL is now seen as divisive a brand as Trump Hotels, Fox News, and CNN. It’s the ONLY sports league that is viewed this way and they did it to themselves. You can try to handwave it away if you want to, but the NFL and its affiliates aren’t anymore and they are aware that this is a serious problem that they’re going to have to address. It may already be too late though.

    Today, the NFL is going to try to resolve the problem and the only question is going to be whether Trump wins now because the NFL starts requiring the players to stand or if Trump wins later because it doesn’t and the NFL is further diminished.

  23. There isn’t any real numbers on how hillbillies directly correlate to the woes of the nfl because there aren’t any. As a matter of fact the people complaining the most about the flag aren’t even a factor in this market at all. The nfl just wants to avoid any bad press because they’re losing in so many other places that are tangible.

    The companies that are directly suffering from the consequences, otoh, should not surprise anyone. They are companies like Harley Davidson that openly courted Donald trump’s insular economic plan but the backlash from trump support has made sales decline by forty percent. Uber also got hammered for sitting on trump’s business panel.

    It’s fun for trump supporters to spit some chaw and marvel at who their troll in chief is tweeting from day to day, but they don’t ever care about what is actually happening on the ground. They prefer listening to their own Baghdad bob who says he’s winning.

  24. Fan poll taken in June of 2017.

    National anthem protests were the top reason that NFL fans watched fewer games last season, according to a new survey released by J.D. Power.

    The pollster said it asked more than 9,200 people who attended either one football, basketball or hockey game whether they tuned into fewer games and why. Twenty-six percent of those who watched fewer games last season said that national anthem protests, some of which were led by Colin Kaepernick, were the reason.

    After that, 24 percent of those surveyed who said they watched fewer games said they did so either because of the league’s off-the-field image issues with domestic violence or with game delays, including penalties.

    One in five (20 percent) listed excessive commercials and advertising as a reason, something the NFL is seeking to address by moving around traditional ad blocks.

    Sixteen percent said it was because of their interest being replaced by the 2016 presidential election coverage.

    Five percent said they watched fewer games because they got rid of cable.

    Sure, multiple reasons. But right there at the top…

    Ahh, but that was based on last season. This poll taken in late September shows the same thing.

    NFL diehards are calling offside on the league over players’ anthem protests, a new poll has found.

    Thirty percent of self-described “fans of the NFL” say they are watching less football this season, and more than half blame players protesting racism by kneeling during the national anthem, according to the Seton Hall Sports Poll, conducted by The Sharkey Institute.

    Of those watching fewer games, 52 percent said it was because they disagreed with the protests.

    But here’s an interesting point:

    Six percent said they were boycotting games in solidarity with kneeling players.

  25. He had to have known all this was going on, but still chose to bury it, and even make a joke about it during the election.

    It should be stressed that Mueller was Director of the FBI when this was going on and knew about it. Sessions would look into it, but somebody found some a joint at a nursing home in Denver and he needs the full resources of federal law enforcement to deal with it.

  26. Ratings will be up this week, now that the tiny minority of flag worshipping jingoists have been effectively torn from the flag they love so much, and the president they love so much can’t force the black people to capitulate and dance on command.

    Ratings are DOWN this week.

    http://deadline.com/2017/10/titans-beat-colts-monday-night-football-ratings-fall-season-low-nfl-espn-1202189784/

    However, as social media sparked with ESPN not showing the playing of the national anthem, another type of history was also being made: Last night’s primetime broadcast of the Titans’ 36-22 victory stumbled to a season low with a 6.1 in metered market results.

  27. So, uhh…apparently this happened.

    Florida man kills mom’s friend for pursuing his imaginary girlfriend

    Brian Disario, 30, of Port Richey, allegedly shot and killed his mother’s friend, David Armstrong, 56, because he believed the man was flirting with his girlfriend — who did not exist — FOX13 reported.

  28. Thrill if you want to declare victory for this I have to insist that you at least know a little about the game at this point. Not only are those Monday night ratings, not Sunday ratings, but it is THE FUCKING COLTS vs. THE FUCKING TITANS.

    By all means do victory dances with the voices as much as you want but Monday night football, by design was meant to be tempered enough as to not cannibalize Sunday football, and Thursday night football was meant to not cannibalize Monday OR Sunday night football. They usually don’t feature the most major games or markets facing off. They simply air a game that would most likely be a regional game, nationally, as a gimme.

    I know you’ll say next thursday night is down and say it’s because of the wimpy fags crying about anthem kneeling next but please understand that dynamic before posting. Lmao.

  29. Zurvan, I’ll grant you this one response and raise you an ironic source, but if you cry one more time that someone is being mean to you and you’re gonna take your ball and go home I’m just going to avoid it all together.

    Here you go:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/09/nfl-ratings-trump-anthem-protests/541173/

    “Some high-profile surveys blamed Colin Kaepernick and other pre-game protesters. And there is no question that many Americans are personally offended by pre-game demonstrations. But this explanation is unsatisfying, for two reasons. First, Kaepernick isn’t on any NFL team in 2017, and Week 1 viewership this year was even lower than 2016, in some windows. What’s more, there is some evidence that the number of people who watched any part of an NFL game increased in 2016, and ratings only dropped because fewer people watched until the end. This suggests that the quality of the gameplay, not the tenor of politics, was the more important culprit. “

  30. Zurvan, I’ll grant you this one response and raise you an ironic source, but if you cry one more time that someone is being mean to you and you’re gonna take your ball and go home I’m just going to avoid it all together.

    Despite multiple polls stating the exact opposite of your claims, you just keep rolling with your idiotic rantings that directly contradict all evidence to the contrary, and post one measily op-ed that you think somehow supersedes actual polls telling us why people have stopped watching. It would be fascinating to watch if it wasn’t so sad. You’re like a liberal version of AlexInCT over on RTFTLC.

  31. Not only are those Monday night ratings, not Sunday ratings, but it is THE FUCKING COLTS vs. THE FUCKING TITANS.

    Summary for those following the conversation:

    “RATINGS WILL GO UP!”
    “Actually, they went down.”
    “THAT DOESN’T COUNT!”

  32. That’s very interwsting. There’s an article there with many inroads for debate, from cord cutting to age demos to political tenor. You predictably ignored them all, declared the Atlantic “fake news” , clinging to polls cited in the odious liberal cesspool called espn (because that Jd powers poll on ESPN couldn’t possibly be clickbait—from the lavar ball network lmao) because muh flag bias confirmed!

    You instead slam the gas pedal to the floor and double down on the decision to drive head first into the black circle on the wall, insisting like wile e. Coyote that this is in fact a tunnel.

    Hit me back if you’re ever interested to discuss why ratings are ACTUALLY down in not just the nfl, but entertainment in general.

  33. Re: UraniumOne

    His illegal conduct was captured with the help of a confidential witness, an American businessman, who began making kickback payments at Mikerin’s direction and with the permission of the FBI.

    Carter Page?

  34. They’re on the motherfucker:

    Im don order say make dem do proper investigation to find people wey dey accuse and kill dia fellow country people on top vampire matter.

  35. Well, here’s something else to argue about:

    So here’s the question: Where is the “extreme vetting” that should have been set up by now to make this travel ban unnecessary?

  36. The Russians fixed the election for Trump-oh, wait:

    Been watching this story percolate all day, getting as much info as I can. I’d say if Trump lets it build up for a couple of weeks, he’ll be perfectly safe to fire Rosenstein and Mueller.

  37. Campos reappeared…on Ellen???

    There’s a hard hitting interview for you. WTH? I can’t think of a better way to say to all the conspiracy theorists, “yes, we’re hiding something,” than disappearing for days, and then suddenly doing a softball pre-recorded interview on Ellen.

  38. and is stored in the Overlay tab (see Figure 2-7 and Figure 2-8)

    Thanks. I’m taking a trip down memory lane this morning with friends. We had about a 10 year run where we saw them every year. Sad day indeed.

  39. I can’t think of a better way to say to all the conspiracy theorists, “yes, we’re hiding something,” than disappearing for days, and then suddenly doing a softball pre-recorded interview on Ellen.

    I’m slowly landing on the likelihood that he’s an illegal alien and that’s why he’s tried to minimize any publicity. MGM is also almost certainly pressuring him to avoid making any public statements that might hurt them in any civil lawsuits.

    But is he an accomplice? Nah. Not a willing or knowing accomplice, anyway.

  40. and is stored in the Overlay tab (see Figure 2-7 and Figure 2-8)

    Hah, that’s what you get when you mix work with pleasure! Note to self, the edit button is your friend, idiot! 🙂

    Anyway, what I meant to quote was this

    Condolences, Santino. I only just got to know them.

  41. So we finally got a Government. Well not quite. We found out who the Government was going to be. Winston Peters chose to go with Labour (left wing) It’s pretty nuts.

  42. This is why I prefer our system. The winners don’t have to include the losers. They may have to make deals with them to get something done, but majority rule (usually) prevails.

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