There is a disturbing trend of late, born from good intentions, that same composite substance used to pave the road to hell, whereby we all accept ourselves as perfect, beautiful, and finished. No doubt this is a carryover from the, “Everyone gets a trophy because there are no winners and losers, you are all special and deserving of praise regardless of the effort made”. Self-esteem is paramount. In order to be loved, you must be lovable, so that is our accepted starting point. We are deserving of all of life’s gifts because of who we are, no deficiencies here, if you see one, that’s your problem not mine.

Naturally this is an easy course to navigate, requiring zero self-reflection, zero self-awareness. No effort is needed to improve, to grow, to become that person you were supposed to be all along. We can put a bow on this painting because it is complete with no further strokes needed.

Let’s start from the premise that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, I read that somewhere. Excluding inward beauty, that thing that is eternal and more valuable, external beauty gets more air time, for a number of reasons; we can see the evidence with our own eyes, subjectively speaking of course, and with the new era of acceptance and tolerance (not really new, just more talked about) the very definition has been expanded to irrelevance.

Tess Holliday is a fat model. Now before you rag on me for calling her fat, those are her own words, words that she revels in and makes a ton of bank endorsing. She is a freakin’ genius. She is the new “it” girl, if by it we mean counter to prevailing acceptable norms. Not only is she fat, she promotes fat pride, a new attitude of, “You don’t like what you see? Fuck Off!!”

Tess has written a book on body image, and by the Amazon reviews, well received. She is outspoken and very rich, tapping in to an emotional issue, not of self-help or improvement but of flat-out acceptance, “I am this way because I choose to be this way”. For her I would probably say she is telling the truth because of what she is selling, what she is promoting. For those overweight folks who can’t cash in, loving yourself is great, do that, but don’t stop trying to lose weight or get healthy. The fat acceptance movement aims to normalize obesity, promoting the belief that it’s fine to be fat, it’s not.

Tess just landed the cover of Self, a magazine that specializes in health, wellness, beauty, and style. Some thinks it is ridiculous;

Pointing out the absurdity of this magazine cover doesn’t make me anti-woman. It makes me pro-living and being healthy.

Naturally in her bio she gives us the standard trope that fat folks can also be healthy. But even the studies that say A doesn’t necessarily mean B , they still warn about future problems;

The new research confirmed this. People who are overweight have a fifty-fifty chance of having high cholesterolhigh blood pressure, or elevated blood sugar levels. Pretty good odds, but not as good as those for people who are within the normal weight range. They have a 75% chance of having normal results on blood tests for cholesterol and blood sugar. And for those who are obese, the chance of having normal results falls to one-third.

Celebrating obesity is lazy and dangerous, and it’s not just an American problem;

According to the NHS, we’re in the grip of an obesity epidemic, which has led to increased pressure on the struggling health service. The latest figures reveal that weight-related hospital admissions have risen by 18% in the past year, with more than a quarter (26%) of British adults now classified as obese. Another recent study, which measured the metabolic health of more than 17,000 respondents, showed that overweight people who exercise regularly and consider themselves “fat but fit” still had a 28% increased risk of heart disease, compared to their slimmer counterparts. As well as being linked to diabetes, obesity can also be responsible for osteoarthritis, gout, breathing problems, high blood pressure and other conditions. While being thin won’t automatically grant you a clean bill of health or a long, smug life of squeaky clean arteries, there’s no denying that health risks are higher for obese people.

Is sum, what Tess peddles to fine and lucrative for her, but dangerous and deflating for her readers.

I see overweight folks all the time at the gym, I have nothing but admiration for them. They understand the need for some reconstruction. I saw this the other day, so cool;

I like the move by the fashion industry to promote “healthy” women in their ads. Anorexia  is not attractive, not healthy, and not something to emulate. Girls with curves rock. Although I think Ashley Graham is attractive, she too could lose a few pounds.

We only get one body in life, we best take care of it. I understand the appeal in what Tess is peddling ,”See, she understands me, she says I’m fine just the way I am, pass the Haagan-Daz”.

Born imperfect, life has always been about the journey. To gain knowledge is to get better, to evolve from what was to something better, a life long pursuit of truth, all these things are consistent with the idea that complacency is an excuse. Ditto with our earthly temple. We can do better, get in better shape, eat better, take better care of ourselves. From the great show Crashing;

“On a sub conscious level I’ve always hated my body”

“You hate your body?”

“Sure, everyone does”

“Everyone hates your body?”

44 comments

  1. This is the opposite end of the spectrum in a society where beautiful people are held up as the standard to which the rest of us should aspire to. Of course we can’t all be supermodels or look like Chippendale dancers. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take care of ourselves, if for no other reason than for our own financial well-being; it’s a lot more expensive to be overweight and unhealthy than otherwise when the weight catches up with you.

    Meanwhile, in other news:
    Harlan Ellison dead:
    http://sciencefiction.com/2018/06/28/controversial-science-fiction-writer-harlan-ellison-passes-away-84/

  2. This is the opposite end of the spectrum in a society where beautiful people are held up as the standard to which the rest of us should aspire to.

    Correct. The trend towards accepting who we are comes more from anti-bulimia/anorexia than from your 5 year old’s plastic trinket from little league. People aspiring to be super-thin so badly that they barf up their breakfast, lunch and dinner is more troubling than a forgotten trophy that was more for the parents than the kids. Hint: it will kill you faster than diabetes.

    Tess is definitely fat, whereas most of these models are “plus-sized”. Most of the plus-sized models are actually quite attractive and look more like regular people. Super-thin and super-fat are the anomalies. Most people lie somewhere on a pretty broad spectrum and some are healthy and some are not.

    I do take exception to the idea that we can fat-shame our way girth reduction in America. A fat friend of mine posted some article about how nicely designed clothes for fat people are the problem. Really? It isn’t how much you eat? The truth is, our diets are atrocious and full of hidden calories. I think Thrill has done some posts on this. If you want to lose weight, eat less, otherwise, here are some decent plus-sized clothes you can wear instead of this tent-like garment that makes you look worse. I don’t see the problem. It is their choice.

  3. On a sub conscious level I’ve always hated my body

    Forgot this one. I hate mine and I weigh 125 pounds. God decided that I didn’t need to gain weight anywhere but my mid-torso. If I gain any more than this, I look like a beach ball on sticks. Thing is, I never looked at a nicely dressed fat woman and said “fuck it, I’m fine”.

  4. I do take exception to the idea that we can fat-shame our way girth reduction in America.

    I’ll tell you this: if we ever get universal, single payer health care in the US, I’ll fat shame remorselessly. Once I’m paying for other people’s horrible health choices, I’m entitled to speak my mind.

    Until then, I prefer to be encouraging. To me, a major benefit of maintaining healthy weight, eating right, exercising, and all that is that I never get sick when I’m doing it. A healthy lifestyle may not completely cancel out bad genes, but it helps a lot!

    What’s frustrating is when you see somebody like this, who is clearly killing herself and lashes out at anyone who tries to help.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16yxosHqJLg

    The truth is, our diets are atrocious and full of hidden calories. I think Thrill has done some posts on this.

    Yeah, the “hidden” aspect wrecks a lot of people. Mrs Thrill told me recently about one of her co-workers who diets and can’t figure out why he wasn’t losing weight. It wasn’t until he realized that the 7 cups of coffee with lots of cream and sugar he was drinking each day was adding up and needed to be counted.

    I mean, every Starbucks Cafe Latte has something like 290 calories. A lot of people don’t think to count those and they might have two per day. It’s that sort of thing that people work into their routine that just ruins their waistlines without them knowing why.

  5. I’ll tell you this: if we ever get universal, single payer health care in the US, I’ll fat shame remorselessly. Once I’m paying for other people’s horrible health choices, I’m entitled to speak my mind.

    Heh. Shame away, but I am not sure it will help anything other than your sensibilities.

    I mean, every Starbucks Cafe Latte has something like 290 calories. A lot of people don’t think to count those and they might have two per day. It’s that sort of thing that people work into their routine that just ruins their waistlines without them knowing why.

    One word: alcohol. Wine and beer are really bad if you are trying to lose weight. I think a light beer has about 90 calories and when I drink, I drink like four. Lately, I am abstaining because they have been triggering some nasty migraines. Like you said, for some reason, people neglect to count them.

    I drink black coffee unless I am treating myself to an iced mocha at the Starbucks drive-thru. Not terribly often do I do this; a few times a year.

  6. “Front Butt”……tehe!!!

    “I do take exception to the idea that we can fat-shame our way girth reduction in America.”

    Not sure where you got that from. Do you know of anyone that posits the idea that ,”We can fat-shame our way to girth reduction in America”?

    In the present environment where feelings trump fact, trigger warnings, snow flakes needing safe spaces, my right to be offended supersedes your right to free expression, the whole concept of shame has been watered down to irrelevance. Is it fat-shaming when you see your doctor for an ingrown toenail and the nurse asks you to get on the scale to update your records? Is it fat-shaming when you ask the sales clerk if she has this dress in size 20 and she replies with a negative, that it only goes to size 18? Is it fat shaming when you go grocery shopping and the store does not have a motorized cart for you? How about all the commercials for weight loss on TV? Or the new push in the restaurant industry to list the number of calories next to each meal, clearly they are just rubbing it in, right? To the easily offended or those looking for a fight (wearing t- shirts that say “bite me” or “nasty woman”) it’s best to just steer clear.

    I read a stat the other day (I think while writing this post) that this is the first time in history that non-communicable diseases kill more people each year than communicable diseases. Diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, circulatory problems, obesity (as opposed to being over weight) is a killer. But if we talk about it in anyway, we are fat-shaming.

    The other issue which I did not address in the post; people who say they are happy being fat. Folks like Tess, those profiting from their physical condition, yes, they are happy, until that point in time where those profits dry up. But I bet there are very few fat people out there that, if given a magic pill where they could be any size they desire, that they would say ,”Nope, don’t want it, don’t need it, I’m perfect just the way I am”.

  7. But if we talk about it in anyway, we are fat-shaming.

    I may have misinterpreted your post, but you certainly misinterpreted my reply. None of those strawmen you put up represented my reply. Fat-shaming would be “you are too fat to wear nice clothes, here’s a mumu.” I was being lazy earlier because I didn’t want to crawl through my friends posts, but I found the article saying basically what you are saying plus what I just said.

    Do you know of anyone that posits the idea that ,”We can fat-shame our way to girth reduction in America”?

    Yes, as a matter of fact I do:

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-normalisation-plus-size-hidden-danger-obesity.html

    I still maintain that hidden calories are more to blame than “stylish” clothes and “normalization” of fat people.

  8. The other issue which I did not address in the post; people who say they are happy being fat.

    Ok, we probably need to define “fat” here. The girl in the photo for the post is really not “fat” in the sense that we are talking here. “Tess” most definitely is. The model in the article I posted is very attractive but could stand to lose ~20 pounds. Truly fat people are usually uncomfortable getting around and I would think unhappy.

  9. Heh. Shame away, but I am not sure it will help anything other than your sensibilities.

    Hell no. If I have to subsidize someone else’s diabetes, I want it to be illegal to be fat.

    One word: alcohol. Wine and beer are really bad if you are trying to lose weight.

    Yeah, that aspect sucks. There’s no way you can drink and lose weight. When I hit my highest weight in 2015 and had officially crossed into “obese” BMI, I went on Weight Watchers. I was horrified when I realized that every one of the vodka tonics I was drinking at the time was 5 points each–and it wasn’t uncommon for me to have two or three on a Saturday. No wonder I got fat!

    I’m pretty much only drinking on special occasions lately, not keeping any booze in the house, if I can avoid it. Really, if I cut back on drinking, that’s almost enough by itself for me to lose weight gradually since I’ve never been a big eater.

  10. If I have to subsidize someone else’s diabetes, I want it to be illegal to be fat.

    Yea, but that goes for alcoholics, people that speed, etc. That slope gets pretty slippery pretty quickly. LOL, my sister in law told my mother in law (her mother) that “no she didn’t need that transplant” after she gets a certain age. It was a theoretical discussion, but she wasn’t kidding.

  11. One word: alcohol.

    I think Homer said it best…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdFoAr5QdwA

    I’m not fat or overweight by any stretch, but damn it for the amount of exercising I do I should be an underwear model (probably boxers, not the tighty-whitey kind). I just can’t quit booze (as we prepare for 2 cookouts this weekend…)!

    As for fat shaming, I have to worry about the opposite for my oldest daughter. She’s a very picky eater and is pretty skinny. She’s almost 11, and is starting to notice how thin she is. We as parents don’t make it an issue, but when she asks me if I think she’s too skinny, I matter-of-factly say she is on the thin side (can’t hide that). I do tell her that if she can expand her diet a little, like having a burger once in a while that would help her in gaining a little weight. I don’t harp on it and I don’t present it in any negative light or in a shameful way, she has enough issues with ADHD and OCD as is.

  12. Yea, but that goes for alcoholics, people that speed, etc. That slope gets pretty slippery pretty quickly.

    And this is why I’m opposed to universal health care. Once we let in that vampire, the health Nazis will run out lives.

  13. Once we let in that vampire, the health Nazis will run out lives.

    Yea, it is definitely a drawback, but perhaps outweighed by a healthier population in general? We have folks here on universal coverage, perhaps they could weigh in on the pros and cons.

  14. Yes, as a matter of fact I do:

    Sorry, but I didn’t find any fat-shaming in that article you posted, I suspect that we have two entirely different definitions of fat-shaming.

    Fat-shaming would be “you are too fat to wear nice clothes, here’s a mumu.”

    OK, now we are getting somewhere, but seriously, where have you heard someone say that? A sales clerk would never say such a thing, or are you just being hyperbolic?

    “I do take exception to the idea that we can fat-shame our way girth reduction in America.”

    Do you really think someone that would actually say ,”You are too fat to wear nice clothes, here’s a mumu” is saying that not out of meanness but has a genuine concern for the well being of the recipient and wants her to lose weight? I have trouble with the whole premise ,” Fat-shaming our way to girth reduction in America”.

    The girl in the photo for the post is really not “fat” in the sense that we are talking here.

    I was being snarky because of who she was. I thought everyone would know that was Lena Dunham, who’s biggest problem is her obesity between her ears. But no, she is not obese weight wise.

    Truly fat people are usually uncomfortable getting around and I would think unhappy.

    Of course, and not to discount the importance of self esteem and body positivity, but there is a perception out there, and I think your posted article lends itself to this, that if you are overweight, this was by design, that you meant to be this way, a well thought out plan that you can take credit for. Crikey, we have all found ourselves putting on unwanted pounds from time to time, but to admit this somehow shows weakness, that we are not in control, so we get fat folks telling us they are happy and would not change a thing, I think that’s bullshit.

    She’s a very picky eater and is pretty skinny.

    My kid was the same way, still is. The only thing we did was make sure there was always good food in the house and made sure that our meals served were well rounded. We never did fast food or dieted excessively around him. Girls are probably different but I wouldn’t worry about it. Now if she was heavy, that would be different.

    I never was a big drinker but could eat my weight at buffets, I don’t do that crap anymore.

  15. Of course, and not to discount the importance of self esteem and body positivity, but there is a perception out there, and I think your posted article lends itself to this, that if you are overweight, this was by design, that you meant to be this way,

    For slightly overweight folks, that might be true. Some people are built bigger than others, this is undeniable.
    Short people are double-whammied. Metabolisms vary and so on. For actual fat people, no, I don’t think that is true. Look at other countries – there are virtually no fat people in Vietnam, for instance. I never saw one during a cumulative 2 months there. Older people can maybe get “rounder”, but obesity, no.

    It is my turn to say that I have never actually heard a person say that it is perfectly fine to be obese. Reading it in an article is one thing (as you pointed out with mine). I mean, how many people really say that?

    Do you really think someone that would actually say ,”You are too fat to wear nice clothes, here’s a mumu” is saying that not out of meanness but has a genuine concern for the well being of the recipient and wants her to lose weight?

    I must invoke my sister in law again, this time talking to her usually obese sister. It is out of concern I guess, but she is relentless and nasty. My (other) SIL knows that she is obese and this doesn’t help, since stress causes her to eat in a viscous cycle. Currently, she is on some kind of medication that saps her appetite and she has lost a lot of weight, so family gatherings are much more pleasant. This type of fat shaming is not benign.

    I love my SIL, but she is very blunt even if she has a good heart deep down.

  16. . Look at other countries

    OK, lets;
    https://obesity.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=006032

    Interestingly the most obese nations are those in the Pacific Islands.

    there are virtually no fat people in Vietnam

    Not for long;

    https://www.foodnavigator-asia.com/Article/2018/02/21/Child-obesity-soaring-in-Vietnam-with-urban-youngsters-at-highest-risk#

    I mean, how many people really say that?

    Well, let’s take a look. From the first link in my post;

    I had even divulged to a friend that I was beginning to look in the mirror and see someone beautiful looking back.
    —–
    Because of my weight, they don’t see my happiness.

    This sure sounds like someone who is OK with her weight just the way it is with no changes needed.
    Did you watch Will’s posted youtube video? It was a 6 minute diatribe of a fat women telling the rest of the world that she is fine with herself just the way she is and for us to mind our own business.

    Tess’s own words;

    “It’s all about accepting yourself the way you are,” Holliday explained on the Today show. “If you want to work towards a better you in whatever regards… do it. But you’re okay just the way you are today.”

    Some people are just fine being heavy, it’s their business and I certainly respect that, but I think there exists a lot of people that are not happy with their current weight and know the risks involved but hear this type of advice, to not only practice fat-pride but lash out at anyone who doesn’t buy into it;
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/10/fat-pride-obesity-public-health-warnings-dangerous-weight-levels

    The comedian Sofie Hagen recently accused Cancer Research of bullying fat people, after the charity launched a campaign to raise awareness about the link between cancer and obesity. Through a series of expletive-laden tweets, she criticised the organisation for its damaging messages, claiming that fat didn’t equal unhealthy.

    While nobody should ever be bullied for their weight or food choices, it’s important to make a distinction between health awareness and cruelty. Cancer Research wasn’t criticising a specific person for being overweight, they were pointing out that obesity is now the second leading cause of lifestyle-related cancers, a fact only 15% of the British public are aware of.

  17. Well, let’s take a look. From the first link in my post;

    I meant in real life. Have you ever heard anyone say these things? I just can’t imagine that it is really common thinking.

    Not for long;

    That is really a shame.

  18. Sugar’s effect on the body cannot be ignored which is why you’re seeing those rates of obesity in Asia. It’s also from white rice- which is a simple carb that turns into sugar.

    Being that fat is a medical problem. The guy in that gym picture won’t live to 50 looking like that. There are two things that need to immediately be done there: 1.) a comprehensive blood test. You need to know your hormones. Is your thyroid functioning, is your testosterone level right and whether or not you’re insulin resistant.

    THEN you diet after you’ve optimized those measures. I wrote here before about the importance of macronutrients over caloric defecit; it’s true. The obese get trapped in a cycle of eating this nutrition less, fiberless, proteinless corporate food which compels hunger, and fuels the obesity. They eat tons of calories and never feel full due to malnutrition.

    Know your macros: calculate them. Measure your body fat, and throw your scale in the trash.

  19. Sugar’s effect on the body cannot be ignored which is why you’re seeing those rates of obesity in Asia. It’s also from white rice- which is a simple carb that turns into sugar.

    Asian people have been eating rice for thousands of years. Now all of a sudden it’s making them fat?

    They’re getting fat because they’re eating the same fast food Americans are, not exercising, and (in some cases) have a cultural preference for being fatter.

  20. Yeah we have universal healthcare and I’ve never in 44 years had the sense that the govt acts as a “health nazi” and “runs my life”. I also haven’t noticed anyone else complaining about that sort of thing. Same experience during my 4 years in London.

  21. Asian people have been eating rice for thousands of years. Now all of a sudden it’s making them fat?

    Yes, when the two intersect. Traditionally the Asian first is more one than the other. Now they’ve gained access through cheap processed food to both in massive quantities.

    If you’d research macros like I’ve discussed in the past, you’d see that once the macro threshold has been met it is the EXCESS that distorts body composition.

    Read about high jackman’s program for his wolverine body. He was consuming sometimes 4000 calories a day, but it had more to do with his macro nutrient manipulation, and his caloric deficit was created over longer stretches of time by restricting certain MACRO nutrients and not others.

    I eat 250 grams of protein a day. I am carbohydrate resistant, so on that macro I sometimes restrict it to .7 grams per pound of body weight, compared to my general 1:1 rario of protein to weight. Fats I use sparingly, sometimes 70 grams a day.

    Carbohydrates and protein are four calories per gram, and fats are seven calories per gram. If you look at a conventional Asian diet, aside from some Japanese and Korean examples, most are loaded with carbohydrates and meats are used sparingly. Diabetes is very prevalent in Asian cultures (particularly south Asian cultures). If you add in junk food, which has ZERO nutrional value, and almost none of quality macro ingredients like protein and complex carbs it will be detrimental no matter what.

    Your theory that caloric defecit, without any other consideration to nutrients is all you need to manage weight is reckless and unhealthy, and it will catch up to you.

    Focusing on macro nutrients, dedicating yourself to adding or maintaining lean muscle is the key to health AND weight management. Caloric restriction goes only so far until there’s adaptation. Once you lose lean muscle (the first thing to go in weight loss without nutrional consideration) your Basel metabolic rate decreases until you’re in a zero sum game.

  22. Yet there are many people these days who eat Keto (70-80% of Macros from Fat, extremely low carbs) who do just fine with weight management and live very healthy lives.

    And people who eat Paleo/Primal (around 30-40% fat, 45%+ Protein) who do fine as well.

    I’ve heard a lot in the last decade about how healthy the Mediterranean Diet is (40% Carbs, 40%+ Fat, <20% Protein).

    Then of course there is the Blue Zones diet, based on research done studying societies around the world who’s people regularly live to 100, where you eat 95% plant based, with 65% carbs, 20% fat, 15% protein, and they do just fine in managing weight.

    There is no one answer for everyone.

    But I do agree with Dredd’s statement on sugar. “The Case Against Sugar” is a fascinating book.

  23. I eat 250 grams of protein a day.

    That is far too much protein. At best, it’s meaningless and at worst, you might destroy your kidneys.

    Your theory that caloric defecit, without any other consideration to nutrients is all you need to manage weight is reckless and unhealthy, and it will catch up to you.

    That’s not my theory. If I thought nutrients didn’t really matter, I’d just go on the Twinkie diet, which has been proven to cause weight loss and even drop LDL cholesterol.

  24. There is no one answer for everyone.

    Which is exactly correct. I’ve done a low carb diet (South Beach). I lost weight on it and got a lot of good recipes out of it, but it wasn’t sustainable for me. When I started working a more physically-intensive job, I was craving carbs and the diet fell apart. It wasn’t just that. Eating that kind of food was pricey and it was a bit…exotic.

    I think I did the best with Weight Watchers. I lost something like 25-30 pounds on it and that weight has almost entirely stayed off for over two years despite some ups-and-downs. But even WW lets you eat sugars, as long as you log what you eat and stay within budget. If Taubes and the other low carb advocates were right, nobody would lose any weight because they’re eating rice and ice cream and all that.

    I tell people that the only diet that definitely works is one you can stick to for the rest of your life. It’s when the low carb and “clean” eating cultists start demanding that everyone eat like they do based on sketchy science and attacking anyone who tries to contradict them that I get annoyed.

  25. Yeah we have universal healthcare and I’ve never in 44 years had the sense that the govt acts as a “health nazi” and “runs my life”.

    I can’t speak to other countries’ experiences. I just know that the US typically applies its nanny state behavior in the most hamfisted and misguided ways imaginable and that’s what would end up happening.

    In the last year or so, numerous states have started trying to ban food stamp recipients from using their benefits to buy junk food and luxury items like steak and lobster, for example.

  26. I eat 250 grams of protein a day. I am carbohydrate resistant, so on that macro I sometimes restrict it to .7 grams per pound of body weight, compared to my general 1:1 rario of protein to weight. Fats I use sparingly, sometimes 70 grams a day.

    Wait, I didn’t catch this the first time I read it. You’re 250 pounds? We’re about the same height. If that is what you weigh, you’re obese by BMI. I hope you’re trying to bring that weight down. Whether you’re 60 lbs overweight and mostly muscle or fat, it doesn’t matter for the exertion you’re placing on your heart.

  27. I love all this nutritional advice (the beauty of blogging, you never know which way the water will flow).

    Growing up poor cheap/processed calories made up my daily food intake. It wasn’t until I got a good job that I could afford to eat better. It also helps to have good genes, my mom’s almost 90, still feisty as ever.

    That Blue Zones diet looks like a winner, and between World Cup matches today on the way home from the gym I will swing by the library and pick up that sugar book. My main vice in life, way too much sugar in my diet.

  28. Growing up poor cheap/processed calories made up my daily food intake. It wasn’t until I got a good job that I could afford to eat better.

    My biggest problem in recent years is that having kids in the home means you’re always going to have some junk food in the house or have nights that you’re too exhausted to cook and end up splurging on fast food. I need the kids to hurry up and go to college so I can get the Pringles out of the pantry.

    It is noteworthy that any change to your lifestyle, habits, family situation, and socio-economic circumstances can wreak complete havoc on your diet. I can tell you that if I changed jobs, it would completely alter my entire fitness regimen if I had to change hours, commute, or anything.

  29. It is noteworthy that any change to your lifestyle, habits, family situation, and socio-economic circumstances can wreak complete havoc on your diet. I can tell you that if I changed jobs, it would completely alter my entire fitness regimen if I had to change hours, commute, or anything.

    Amen!!

    But i’ll throw in another factor; discipline. Even when I could afford to eat better, got enough sleep from the crazy hours I worked, and had a relatively stable home life to mitigate the stress, I still had to go work out when I didn’t want to and eat healthy stuff when I preferred a bag of apple fritters. A disciplined life also benefits you financially, delaying gratification, saving for a rainy day. A centered life is more gratifying, lends perspective and ultimately makes you happier.

  30. Aside from the other examples I provided, I stumbled on to this this morning, she is a piece of work;

    Does pfluffy mean she’s never heard anyone say it in person, like conversationally? I never have either, though there are plenty on YouTube and the odd editorial writer on places where that kind of garbage is propagated. Such as Vice or HuffPo.

    A centered life is more gratifying, lends perspective and ultimately makes you happier.

    That really gets to the kernel of it. When you look at “Fat Girl” in the video link I shared above, probably her most apparent character flaw is a complete lack of self-control.

  31. Does pfluffy mean she’s never heard anyone say it in person, like conversationally? I never have either

    Yes, that is what I mean.

  32. Nope you are wrong again, William. The adage about protein and kidney damage is 100 percent complete myth. It has been thoroughly debunked. It was THOUGHT it might cause kidney damage because the by product of excess processing of protein is urea but the latest science shows that was theory and conplete bullshit in practice.

    You don’t know what my protein requirements are and you have no fucking clue what is safe. I get regular blood panels, I work out with strength training and cardio at least four times a week, so what would your expert requirement macro for those variables? Here’s a hint: don’t bother typing it, you don’t know and I will dismiss it right out of hand.

    This is an area you simply just do not understand. I’d go through the rest of the comments but I’m sure it’s just more of the same.

    Sugar is the he most useless example of a carbohydrate nutrient absent fiber in a 1:1 ratio. It is a TOXIN in the blood stream and why diabetics need amputation once it’s destroyed their kidneys and liver.

    That’s the science. It has uses, and I never advocate not eating it at all. I do say with conviction I doubt anyone here (mulyself invluded) has the kind of anergy need that requires glucose without fiber.

    So, to wrap it up, strict caloric restriction is a yo yo diet and lifestyle when you do not factor in nutrituon. Your writing here is a testament to that.

    If you really think you’re a genius go on a candy bar diet like you’ve suggested in the past. 1500 calories a day. Get your blood work done before and after along with your body composition. I doubt you will and if you do you’d be in a pine box or diabetic.

  33. The adage about protein and kidney damage is 100 percent complete myth. It has been thoroughly debunked.

    According to which study?

    Sugar is the he most useless example of a carbohydrate nutrient absent fiber in a 1:1 ratio. It is a TOXIN in the blood stream

    And see, this is where the cult-like lunacy starts to creep in. It starts with “Hey, we eat to much sugar as a proportion to the rest of our diet” and then graduate to “You know, eating rice makes Asians fat” and “It’s a little-known fact that chocolate cookies are toxic”.

    So, to wrap it up, strict caloric restriction is a yo yo diet and lifestyle when you do not factor in nutrituon. Your writing here is a testament to that.

    I’m 1 pound above what I need to be for a normal BMI and heading downward. You’re obese by BMI. I could probably leave it at that, but I’ll note that my problem isn’t that I don’t understand nutrition. It’s that I enjoy getting drunk.

    While you were drinking your third out of nine protein shakes today, I made some delicious pancakes for breakfast this morning. As soon as I finish this comment, I’ll go do 30 minutes of jump rope and shadowboxing. I’m losing weight and I’m happy.

    This is something I can do for the rest of my life. You, on the other hand, will live in perpetual fear that you’ll accidentally eat a cupcake and fall into a coma from the sheer toxicity of its delicious chocolate icing.

    If you really think you’re a genius go on a candy bar diet like you’ve suggested in the past. 1500 calories a day.

    Why? I already know how to lose weight in a healthy and commonsense way without subscribing to any nutty concepts, extreme meal plans, or fads.

  34. Yes, that is what I mean.

    Oh, OK.

    I have not known many obese folks, certainly not close enough for them to share their intimate feelings about their own weight battles.

    I get why these celebrity fatties push fat-pride, it’s butters their bread and makes them rich, but for those not in the ,”I am fat, hear me roar” camp it’s not productive or helpful.

    If The Judge lived closer, I’d hire him out for bodyguard work, he sounds like a beast.

  35. I have not known many obese folks

    We need to get you east of the Rockies more often. Both pfluffy and I have them in herds around our towns.

  36. I’ll allow Judge one thing since I took the time to find the relevant studies on my own. His kidneys are probably fine.

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